tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1937170202895477126.post3795209154346307736..comments2024-03-25T16:44:35.555-04:00Comments on Sixbears in the Woods: Spot the stealth camperSixbearshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15572224383041421400noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1937170202895477126.post-66353479215984374862016-09-30T11:07:09.162-04:002016-09-30T11:07:09.162-04:00I've been to Key West a number of times. In r...I've been to Key West a number of times. In recent years they took away my parking spots so I don't even try anymore. <br /><br />However, I am tempted to anchor out on a sailboat and dingy in. That can be sketchy so I might break down and pay for a mooring.Sixbearshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15572224383041421400noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1937170202895477126.post-80055539427140531522016-09-30T04:11:31.065-04:002016-09-30T04:11:31.065-04:00Dont try Key West. Those who live in vans and cars...Dont try Key West. Those who live in vans and cars here either rent a space (like we do) to park on private property or stay on friends' property. Not only will the cops go after any van they can't see into,but , especially now that Trumans Annex has been made no overnight parking, local van dwellers will call the cops themselves on non locals to run them off so they can have a space to sleep.I love it here, but it can be brutal, and expensive.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1937170202895477126.post-73306386520447481342016-04-12T14:40:42.156-04:002016-04-12T14:40:42.156-04:00They hate us for our freedom.They hate us for our freedom.Sixbearshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15572224383041421400noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1937170202895477126.post-46823004811027642992016-04-11T21:39:36.811-04:002016-04-11T21:39:36.811-04:00And let's not forget the other money aspect: I...And let's not forget the other money aspect: If you learn how to do or get something without needing money, then those with money lose some of their power to lord it over you, because at least in that one case, their money no longer makes a difference.<br /><br />I'm sure such a condition makes them cranky and prone to push for new local ordinances to outlaw previously simple, sensible, and free things according to natural law.Yodahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11955078083178330883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1937170202895477126.post-36977943802267217162016-04-11T20:30:47.931-04:002016-04-11T20:30:47.931-04:00I wonder if that is true only for federally owned ...I wonder if that is true only for federally owned lands or also for state owned, such as state forests?Yodahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11955078083178330883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1937170202895477126.post-72401826088556660792016-04-11T20:27:42.681-04:002016-04-11T20:27:42.681-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Yodahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11955078083178330883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1937170202895477126.post-43758281923115329542016-04-11T18:33:31.417-04:002016-04-11T18:33:31.417-04:00Follow the money trail. No one makes any money of...Follow the money trail. No one makes any money off you when you stealth camp. That is why it is illegal in some places and frond on in others.Dizzy-Dickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14150939928800538404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1937170202895477126.post-5589820122962741082016-04-11T14:00:49.448-04:002016-04-11T14:00:49.448-04:00It's not that easy on the beaches anymore. Fo...It's not that easy on the beaches anymore. For example, in Key West it's illegal to sleep in your vehicle. Of course, if they bang on your door at 3 a. m. everyone denies that they were sleeping.Sixbearshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15572224383041421400noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1937170202895477126.post-15594159686430910042016-04-11T13:21:16.115-04:002016-04-11T13:21:16.115-04:00So THATS how it gets done ... those are some prett...So THATS how it gets done ... those are some pretty sneaky strategies. The Utility work van for example sounds good - who gives these guys with the orange day glo striped mesh vests a 2nd glance ?<br /><br />What are opportunities along the public beaches like ? Do the local PD poke and prod to see if the vehicle is supposed to be there ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1937170202895477126.post-7945605669726923762016-04-11T12:08:52.609-04:002016-04-11T12:08:52.609-04:00There are some good places on public lands that wo...There are some good places on public lands that work out really well. National Forest, BLM, etc.Sixbearshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15572224383041421400noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1937170202895477126.post-67586970216492907882016-04-11T11:49:08.331-04:002016-04-11T11:49:08.331-04:00Congratulations for making it work for you. There...Congratulations for making it work for you. There are some cool folks out there living the life. Sixbearshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15572224383041421400noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1937170202895477126.post-87128092075928541052016-04-11T10:15:25.988-04:002016-04-11T10:15:25.988-04:00Yeah, though ironic, I know rest areas are "...Yeah, though ironic, I know rest areas are "right out". Sort of proves my point. To my way of thinking, stealth camping works best when the vehicle is out of sight as well, where possible.Yodahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11955078083178330883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1937170202895477126.post-13977346073757918412016-04-11T10:05:21.812-04:002016-04-11T10:05:21.812-04:00One of the last places you'd want to stop at a...One of the last places you'd want to stop at are "rest areas." Many states don't actually allow you to rest in them. There are some that are pretty good, but I left one of the "good" ones in the middle of the night as it didn't feel safe anymore.Sixbearshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15572224383041421400noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1937170202895477126.post-5928487314152104652016-04-11T09:57:24.882-04:002016-04-11T09:57:24.882-04:00Good summary of motivations and types. Earlier, I ...Good summary of motivations and types. Earlier, I was referring to those there involuntarily. Spent a few summers stealth camping by choice. Loved that. My standard way of traveling long distance. One winter less voluntarily. Didn't like that quite as much. Never tried Wal-Mart. <br /><br />I generally don't think of myself as libertarian, but when a person can't pull over on a trip and sleep until morning without bothering anyone, it might be time to sign up.Yodahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11955078083178330883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1937170202895477126.post-61314870115581362352016-04-11T08:54:44.082-04:002016-04-11T08:54:44.082-04:00Been living out of my 89 dodge for over 6 years no...Been living out of my 89 dodge for over 6 years now.By choice always on public lands met lots of interesting folks. Never done any stealth,but can spot them pretty quickly. Cheers!Newagenomadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03750934488420133445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1937170202895477126.post-17362197385491642882016-04-11T08:38:16.313-04:002016-04-11T08:38:16.313-04:00When traveling long distances in the converted amb...When traveling long distances in the converted ambulance/veggie van I'll "urban camp." Why pay for a hotel when all I'm going to do is sleep? There's a perfectly comfortable bed in the van. <br /><br />I've met a whole range of people. Some are doing it for a few weeks or months. Many people have jobs, but they are temporary or seasonal. Others are full timers. <br /><br />Quite a few use a mix of stealth camping and campgrounds. That's what I do myself. <br /><br />Some people get really upset with anyone who'd not living a "normal" life. Sad really. <br /><br />Some folks end up sleeping in their vehicles. Others are there because that's what they want to do. <br /><br />Had a nice visit with a young lady who worked as an EMT. In the summer she worked in Canada. Florida in the winter. Lived in her van the whole time and loved it. Sixbearshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15572224383041421400noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1937170202895477126.post-57352923953627188962016-04-11T08:29:31.358-04:002016-04-11T08:29:31.358-04:00I was tempted to get a Westfalia years ago and eve...I was tempted to get a Westfalia years ago and even made an offer on one. Sixbearshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15572224383041421400noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1937170202895477126.post-8307768213913827512016-04-11T08:28:26.626-04:002016-04-11T08:28:26.626-04:00That might be because they didn't plan but end...That might be because they didn't plan but ended up in their cars. It's tough out there.Sixbearshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15572224383041421400noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1937170202895477126.post-67822096958992445142016-04-11T03:06:50.842-04:002016-04-11T03:06:50.842-04:00More a commentary on the topic, not the post:
The...More a commentary on the topic, not the post:<br /><br />There's an adage about a bucket full of crabs. If one crab starts to climb out of the bucket, the others will pull him back in. This whole stealth camping thing seems similar to me. In the words of Shakespeare ... much ado about nothing. <br /><br />Please don't misunderstand. It is real and as you described (to the limits of my knowledge). I just think we've all become even more crab-like in recent years. After all, who should really give a shit if someone is sleeping in his van? And if they do care, don't be a busybody and call the over-militarized cops who will surely inflate and exacerbate the situation (see, it's already a "situation" now!!). Instead, why not think of some truly helpful way to interact with the stealth camper? After all, very few people are sleeping in their cars in Walmart parking lots by choice. Failing that type of helpful interaction, maybe we should just mind our own business.<br /><br />I'm all for helping people who find themselves in that predicament, especially if I can simultaneously stick it to the "concerned citizens". You know, those people who seem to thrive on schadenfreude; who can't just be satisfied that they have more than enough, but seem compelled to see that others have less than the minimum.Yodahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11955078083178330883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1937170202895477126.post-9047418810859848562016-04-11T02:51:31.990-04:002016-04-11T02:51:31.990-04:00The 1990 Westfalia is perfect for that. I don'...The 1990 Westfalia is perfect for that. I don't take it out enough. There's this thing about a job that gets in the way.Sarthurknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1937170202895477126.post-67867009540541145462016-04-11T00:11:39.134-04:002016-04-11T00:11:39.134-04:00I've seen a few folks who I could tell were li...I've seen a few folks who I could tell were living in their cars. They didn't seem to be organized enough for me to think of them as "pros," though.Gorges Smythehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08777621500611603786noreply@blogger.com