We underestimate the effects of massive human migration.
Historically human migration has toppled empires. If the Huns or the Mongols are coming, all one can do is get out of the way or submit. Even submitting isn't a very good idea if the invaders are keen to pile up pyramids of skulls.
Anything can start the disruption. It could be whole tribes fleeing invaders, or it could be something as simple as climate changes causing the crops to fail. Hungry people are desperate.
In more recent years there have been many mass migrations of people. They have put strains on their host countries, like when the Palestinians moved into Jordan. In general, refugees are not allowed to flood into and overwhelm countries. There are mechanisms to deal with them.
Refugee camps are set up. They keep people under control. Many camps are fenced in and armed guards patrol. An even more effective method of control is provided by handing out food, supplying at least minimal shelter and giving medical treatment. There's an unwritten agreement: stay here and don't overrun our country and we'll provide for your basic needs. International organizations help defray the expenses of running the camps.
We've forgotten how truly disruptive massive refugee invasion can be. Many in the US think Central and South Americans are overwhelming the country. It's no where near that level. One of the reasons the border is so porous is that big business has a demand for cheap labor. If there were no jobs waiting for them the big incentive to cross the border would go away.
Now however, it's not just job seekers coming across the border. It's people fleeing violence and political turmoil in their home countries. This is just a trickle. Most people don't want to move far away from their country and the culture they grew up in. Things would have to get much worse before it became a flood. That could happen.
Europe is getting their fair share of refugees right now. So far governments around the world have been strong enough to manage the problem. Now picture a situation where first world governments are weakened and the refugee situation increases exponentially. It happened to the Roman Empire.
So what's the point of all this? Some folks think that they'll survive the collapse of government without the hordes of barbarians overrunning their area. When governments get too weak border controls collapse. Refugees don't stay in their nice little camps. There could be desperate people migrating all over the place with no concern for borders. You might have a nice place to weather the storm, but can you weather the storm of refugees?
Just like tribes in the past you may be forced to hit the road your own self. Widespread disruptions are like that. Don't be too critical on people who might have been happy to stay at home except they were forced out of their place too.
-Sixbears
My grandparents came from France , England, Ireland, and Italy. To avoid the collapsing Europe before World War 1.We done alright.The Illuminate is killing the world.They are Devils who want the world to collapse.
ReplyDeleteDevils seek Devils to join this collaboration to end our civilization. Look around and see there work . Divide and conquer.
I had ancestors get out at about the same time -that's how they became ancestors.
DeleteMost mass migrations have been caused by the greed of those at the top. Not much has changed.
ReplyDeleteThe greed of the ruling class has been the source of many ills.
DeleteSome good points made. Many of the rural Latin Americans live in the jungle because they are further away from government forces that are satisfied to push around the urban dweller. But the rural are pushed out by companies which use 'slash - burn' land practices and drive them out because they are in the way of 'Progress'. They are caught in a no win situation.
ReplyDeleteThey may survive the collapse of our industrial society -and be better off without it.
DeleteI'll be happy as a pig in shiite when we go back to callin' "climate change" da 'weather.'
ReplyDeleteClimate and weather are often confused. One storm is not climate.
DeleteInterestingly you mention the palestinian refugee camps. Some points to consider on a societies ability to survive massive change and prosper can be drawn from them. The vast bulk of the refugees are still in camos in Jordan and Syria decades after having fled Israel. They are still regarded as outsiders and have few rights or opportunities in their host country. This is despite being predominantly both arab and muslims, the same as the largest demograph of their host country.
ReplyDeleteIn contrast Israel absorbed the vast bulk of the north african and middle eastern jews who were kicked out of their home countries after israels creation. They were given citizenship and now contribute greatly to their economy. Similar groups have fled during history to western nations and the absorption and integration has benefited the host. This flexibility increases the chance of survival during a crisis because of the willingness to cooperate and compromise.
Of course in recent years the liberal mindset has deemed integration bad and encouraged minorities to have a separate identities and communities. The unfortunately encourages societies to fragment rather than come together. But that's another story..........
Integration helps keep countries stable. So does complete isolation from the host community. Let's see what works best in the long run. My bet is on integration.
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