Christmas Fish
10 hours ago
Tuesday, March 5, 2013
Who's the enemy here?
I try not to be paranoid, I really do. Articles like this one make it hard. What's the Department of Homeland Security going to do with 2700 armored vehicles? Combined with their purchase of 1.6 billion round of ammunition, it's pretty disquieting.
Who do they expect to use this equipment on? Who's the enemy? Surely not us citizens. Maybe Canada is going to invade -or Martians.
If they are planning for massive civil unrest one has to ask why? Do they have guilty secrets they are afraid are about to become public? Is the whole thing just pork for the defense industry?
Funny how during a time of massive budget cuts that DHS is on a buying spree.
What's a citizen to do? Unlike the government, we don't have the right to bear tanks. I think it's not too much to ask what the intended use of all this ammo and hardware is for. After all, taxpayers are footing the bill.
-Sixbears
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There's been a lot of tanks put down with Molitov Cocktails.
ReplyDeleteThey aren't much good when they run out of gas.
Delete...no worries Brother, they don't float...lol, stay off shore outa rifle range, yer cool...
ReplyDeleteDrones aren't stopped by water - man, that is a FUNNY looking seagull . . .
DeleteLet's shoot it and see how it cooks up. :)
DeleteGetting a wee bit interesting now-a-days. Something is cooking. Keep prepared. Wouldn't want to be living in any of the cities.
ReplyDeleteI won't want to live in a city on the best of days, but that's just me.
DeleteMight have something to do with grain stockpiles at record lows and drought set to continue... people tend to get a bit difficult when they haven't eaten for days....
ReplyDeleteScary thought. That would do it.
DeleteThey were releasing "undocumented workers" (i.e. illegal aliens) BEFORE the sequestration took effect, wasting millions of dollars used in apprehending and holding them. Even now, they are spending extra money to bring more Border Patrol forces into apprehension.
ReplyDeleteWhy? If you are going to release them anyway, whats the point in finding and capturing them in the 1st place ?
Feel like I'm living in Alice's Wonderland, things just don't make much sense.
That's just it. Nothing about all this makes any sense. Obviously we aren't being told something important -or our leaders are crazier than we ever thought.
DeleteWe aren't being told a lot of things. It takes military power to keep a dictator in power.
ReplyDeleteWell . . . this certainly is no way for a democracy to behave.
DeleteI am sure that the tanks, bullets, coffins are all for "terrorists". Really.
ReplyDeleteYeah, "Terrorists."
Deletelol
DeleteNorth Korea... just a hunch. Spider-sense is tingling
ReplyDeleteWhile Korea seems to be heating up, it doesn't make much sense to arm all these domestic agencies. I don't see North Korean troops marching on Washington.
DeleteI didn't read the comments because of my blood pressure.
ReplyDeleteBut feel free to check this out:
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2013/02/27/sarah_palin_stockpiling_bullets_conspiracy_theory_palin_cites_already_debunked.html
Checked it out.
ReplyDeleteSo the purchases are real. Slate says it's a normal government purchase.
Seems excessive to me.
Don't like that the armored vehicles remind me of those South Africa used to use on the black population. (not to start any rumors here, just saying.)
The federal government has a lot of armed employees. Buying in bulk, just before a stupid budget cut comes up sound pretty damn smart to me.
ReplyDeleteThat alone might make it suspicious.
I think people are looking for a reason to panic and cherry picking facts.
The government already has plenty of rounds, tanks, APCs and drones if they really want to come gte you if they want to.
This was just them shopping in bulk.
Some years ago they had a 11 hotel series MOS. The manual for that had a bunch of great games an individual could play with OPFOR armor vehicles. It was written at a time that forces would have to take on the soviet threat. The defenders of the proposed Fulda Gap scenario would have to fight on against ten to one odds with little hope for quick resupply. So they came up with some wicked alternatives to negate armor. Armor is of little use to fight up close. You close in tight and take them down piece meal. The treads are easy to tear off with hard wood logs thrust into the tracks. wooden wedges bind up the turrets and there are locking places for all the hatches on the outside. Bolt them shut and build a bonfire. Washing soap or grease on the roads is a cool idea too. That plays havoc on any tread, be it tank or any other type of vehicle. There were also molotovs and eagle fire cocktails. Foogas and a host of other nasties. Chain saw mix is particularly nasty. Veggie oil burns nasty like too. Take away the armor and you have inept dismounted infantry who felt secure in that armor. Armor is an illusion of power, The grunts job is to dispell that illusion. Well, that's today's history lesson from an old cold war grunt. Any military VS civilians confrontation begets a "Red Dawn" response. Some how I don't think those Jacks in washington wants to go there. See the illusion of force looses its "fear factor" after it is used. Also a "Red Dawn" scenario is won by the defenders and not the aggressors. Time frame 90 days - 3 years tops.
ReplyDeleteHistorical note, the 11-Hotel and the 11-M MOS's were phased out and I believe not taught any more. It's all 11-B bullet stoppers now.
As to what they are doing might be summed up by the FM3-21.91 Chapter 9 SUPPORT OPERATIONS
DeleteSection I. TYPES OF SUPPORT OPERATIONS
9-1. DOMESTIC SUPPORT OPERATIONS
DSOs supplement the efforts and resources of state and local governments and NGOs within the United States. During DSOs, the US military always responds in support of another civilian agency. DSOs also include those activities and measures taken by DOD to foster mutual assistance and support between the department of defense (DOD) and any civil government agency. DSOs may include military assistance with planning or preparedness for, or in the application of resources in response to, the consequences of civil emergencies or attacks, including national security emergencies or major disasters. A presidential declaration of an emergency or disaster area usually precedes a DSO.
Those light armored vehicles don't work too well in the mountains, or a whole other host of areas. Just sayin'...
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